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in reply to: Good luck everyone! #48719
Thanks Frodo. I think you summed it up very well. Take heart in knowing you were a major reason this event is even taking place. This will be my last post on the Flags forum before the event as I’m off to the Great Gulf tomorrow. I’ll catch up with everyone Sunday or Monday. I’ll come up with a gameplan for getting pics posted in the gallery and may be looking for input. So…bring your digital cameras (or film cameras as I can scan prints if need be). I’ll leave this forum active for a few weeks after the event for those that would like to share their experiences. Be safe everyone.
God Bless America!
in reply to: Peaks List Update (2002) #48717You got it. I work in New Haven. I think you’re right up the road…
in reply to: Tough Questions #48710in reply to: Mission statement tense problems? & stuff. #48695Agreed. How about this:
“On September 11th, 2001 the consciousness of United States of America was inexorably altered by an unprovoked and unjustifiable act of terrorism so far reaching in its scope, that our country will not soon heal from this wound. Thousands of innocent lives were lost in a fleeting moment as families still try to piece together their shattered lives and return to some semblance of normalcy.
We in the hiking community would like to honor those fallen heroes by flying the American flag atop of all 48 four thousand foot and higher mountains in New Hampshire on Saturday, September 14, 2002, in conjunction with the observance of National Remembrance Day. By demonstrating our steadfast unity as Americans and as hikers, we hope to express our unwavering support to the families and to the communities whose losses are beyond comprehension and whose sacrifices will forever remain in our hearts.”
This flag will be displayed from 12:00-2:00. Keep in mind that we leave no trace. After we are done displaying this flag, it will be removed; nothing is to be left behind on this mountain.
I would use some sort of similar format with the mission statement (as on the Web site) more prominent. In retrospect, the tense, IMO, would read just fine if displayed during the event.
I still think it’s better if the supporter stays with his/her flag though…
Any other comments?
in reply to: Mission statement tense problems? & stuff. #48693RJ – Some very good points. However, I don’t think that Amadeus is trying to change the “theme” of the mission statement. I believe (Amadeus , please correct me if I’m wrong) his intent is to:
- Put the mission statement in the correct (present) tense if being displayed during the event.
- Reiiterate that the flag/flagpole will be removed.
The tense issue is not a big deal if the mission statement is left as is. As for the LNT aspect, perhaps a single sentence can occur in a new paragraph and not as part of the actual mission statement?
Finally, maybe we should urge flag supporters to simply stay with their flags. If the weather is not suitable for a human, it’s certainly not suitable for a makeshift flagpole which may be blown down, or worse into someone.
I’m kinda torn here, but i tend to agree with RJ, especially due to the backlash this harmless event has received on other forums. Consistency is the key here. What are others thoughts?
in reply to: Tough Questions #48708@pedxing wrote:
Second, Brain Damage isn’t exactly a troll, He’s posted a bunch and does so on a variety of topics (including things like gear). When there is controversy, he is likely to post in ways that generate more heat than light.
He may contribute in other threads, but it’s clear he was trolling in that initial post. He knew it would get a reaction.
And just look what that thread evolved into! Conspiracy theories, big brother, civil liberties, political correctness. :blink: I’m not touching that one again…
in reply to: Mission statement tense problems? & stuff. #48690How ’bout:
On September 11th, 2001 the consciousness of United States of America was inexorably altered by an unprovoked and unjustifiable act of terrorism so far reaching in its scope, that our country will not soon heal from this wound. Thousands of innocent lives were lost in a fleeting moment as families still try to piece together their shattered lives and return to some semblance of normalcy.
We in the hiking community are honoring those fallen heroes by flying the American flag atop of all 48 four thousand foot and higher mountains in New Hampshire today, Saturday, September 14, 2002, in conjunction with the observance of National Remembrance Day. This flag will be displayed from 12:00-2:00. Keep in mind that we leave no trace. After we are done displaying this flag, it will be removed; nothing is to be left behind on this mountain. By demonstrating our steadfast unity as Americans and as hikers, we hope to express our unwavering support to the families and to the communities whose losses are beyond comprehension and whose sacrifices will forever remain in our hearts.
…or something…
in reply to: Tough Questions #48706I can’t believe it. I did the exact opposite of what you should do with a troll post like BrainDamage’s. I responded. 😳 Sorry. I couldn’t help it.
in reply to: Tough Questions #48704Well, we have another derogatory post on the AMC boards. It’s obvious that BrainDamage is trolling so it’s best to not even respond. It amazes me that on the one year anniversary, people can pick apart every little thing other people do. BrainDamage assumes we are trying to “turn 9/11 into another three day shopping weekend”. In another post on the AMC HJ, BrainDamage states we will “wave a flag for 2 hours, maybe get on TV, then eat pizza and drink some beers”. Is this guy over the top, or what?
maineguy seemed to sum up BrainDamage’s post the best with, “So we are going to fly the American flag for a couple of hours. How can anybody possibly take exception to that?”. Unbelievable. 😕
in reply to: Flag Pole Ideas #48645Home Depot is selling 3′ x 5′ flags for ~$10 (SKU# 833983). Not the biggest flag in the world, but it’s an inexpensive option. It comes with a ~3/4″ wide pole too. We using it along with an antenna mast like rbhayes suggests.
in reply to: celebrating after flags on the 48 ? #48676@RJ wrote:
By doing this, I feel that I am least part of the event, even though I cannot climb one of the mountains on that day.
Bummer RJ. And YES, you have most definitely been an integral part of the event. We all appreciate it. Hopefully, we’ll get a lot of images to post in the gallery after the event. I’ll have my digital loaded with 80MB of memory to document the views from Madison! 🙂
in reply to: How do we promote this event? #48591VERY well written article, Mediahound!
in reply to: How do we promote this event? #48589Sounds good to me. Will it appear here – http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/ ?
in reply to: How do we promote this event? #48587That sounds fine to me. Just be sure to doublecheck the most recent list possible. Also, I assume your article will include some information on the risks involved in hiking 4000’+ mountains in general, especially some of the higher exposed peaks above treeline. We certainly don’t want someone with limited hiking experience getting into trouble in the name of patriotism.
in reply to: How do we promote this event? #48585@Mediahound wrote:
…whether it would be OK to mention the mountains that aren’t yet spoken for in my column…
Welcome Mediahound! I suppose it would depend on where your column appears. Who do you write for? Again, I think that the consensus is that this event should be kept as “grassroots” as possible. I think the goal is to avoid a big media circus (no offense) while still getting the word out. There are currently only 7 peaks that still need support, so I think we’re in pretty good shape. Any other thoughts?
Of course it would be neat to have some coverage of the event, but I imagine nobody wants CNN flying helicopters through the WMNF that day. Maybe I’m wrong? What are others’ feelings?
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